Saturday, August 14, 2004
Well, it wasn't THAT long, but I've been away for a while. I was on vacation in North Carolina, enjoying the roaring ocean and the incremental slathering of lotion on my pasty white flesh. Ew... that even grossed ME out....
So, I didn't have access to a computer for about a week. Which is always strange, because after 5 years in the working world my body's natural state is upright, wiggling my fingers. People kept coming up to me on the beach "What are you, practicing your puppeting?" Then they'd laugh and kick sand at me.
I didn't get a chance to post a notice because last Thursday I handed in my resignation to work, and I spent the next two days being a miserable bastard. I won't get into specifics on why I left — maybe someday — but I will say that I will miss TMX. I loved working with the creative group there; they're some of the most talented people I've been lucky enough to learn from, and create with. But as George Harrison said, sung, and wrote, "All things Must Pass".
That's the story, schwoog. Now I'm fending for myself as an illustrator — and I'm pretty damn excited about it. I can work on the next incarnation of Bearskinrug, start drawing full time, and see my wife for more than 2 hours a night. Oh — and I finally have time to put out that fire in my basement.
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You can tell everyone the truth, Mr. Cornell. My elaborate scheme to get you fired finally paid off!!!
Good luck being unemployed - er... I mean working as an illustrator.
Sometimes I feel bad about being so bad, but then I remember what it was like being your neighbor.
Yours lovingly,
If you sold your illustrations on the site I'm sure people would buy them. I would. But then I'm one of them rich types - you know - the working class!
Well, I'd love to sell illustrations; it's just a matter of finding out how...
I guess I better get thinking!
As a long time intellectual freeloader and first time contributor, I would have to say that leaving TMX and freelancing is a freakin' inspiration to us all. There, I've said it. Now I'll quietly cower back at my desk and get back to work.
Well selling them, you have alot of traffic to a website you own, youre audience is world wide.. and you just need a paypal button and a seperate site with the illustrations on individually/category placed.
And bobs your half norweigan semi female shop keeper.
My Anonymous (who visits alot and would definitely buy some)
And if you're on about the illustration side of it, just sell them "as is" .. people have bought alot worse stuff off of ebay for alot more than you'd even pay for good stuff.
Hmmm - that's not a bad idea guys... I would need to figure out the legal ramifications for selling online. And I'd also probably sell prints instead of originals... Or is it having the original that makes buying online worth it?
I'm a fan of this guy:
http://www.gapingvoid.com/
he sells prints of sketches on the backs of business cards.
I just can't justify buying one for 150 bucks. ..and thats a god damn print. But I guess enough selling.
so there.
Well as long as the description of the goods matches the end product the consumer receives, generally you wont find a problem (flea markets around the world get away with worse crimes)
If you could get the artwork at the right size putting them on tees and selling them is also very cool with the kids these days.
If you need any help I'm sure theres all sorts of people who'd offer to help. (I would.. if I wasnt anonymous on this thing all the time.. but I'll settle for being bob)
well. im gonna tell ya right now. your not going to sell a lot of stuff online. especially prints. unless your joe sorren and i dont think you are. no, you not. being an illustrator myself i have some advice for you kev, get a job at least part time....gaylife doesnt pay shite if at all...so stay away from them.
and good luck.
maybe all us unemployed people should make our own work....
You dont know till you try.
If the first person to jump out of a plane said it was no fun, doesnt mean the rest of the world wouldn't want to do it for kicks.
The difference I find with these illustrations is the sense of humour is what makes them worthy buying. The styles lovely and they'd work well as office compliments.
Its not like it'd cost you much other than time, and during unemployment it'll keep you both busy, working and giving you an extra source of income even when you get a new job.
wow. i never knew you were an illustrator. i would have guessed robot technician or maybe sandwich artist. anyway, good luck with the new employment situation.
Kevin, we should talk. I can get you mad work here in Detroit. And it's kind of in the art field.
Pretty much what we need is a life model for our charcoal sketching class here at the community college.
You in?
It's times like these that I'm not so down about my dad not being around. Because it'd be a time like this that dad would take Kevin under his wing as the [good illustratin'] son he never had.
sniffle.
i love when people who arent illustrators try and tell you how to do it, and how much money you will be rakin' in. ya'll just dont understand.
So, niff... basically your advice for me is "Don't try - you won't succeed"?
:)
haha. no. thats not it at all. im just saying that its a lot more work that people think. not just from my point of view but a lot of my friends who have tried and some are successful and some are not....but its hard work. i think you are very capable...i just get tee's when people act like its so easy...why arent i working or famous by now...they have mom syndrom. sorry to make you think that i was directing that at you.
i ment to say tee'd in that last post...and i ment to put a question mark in after ...famous by now ? maybe this is why im a falure and everyone thinks im retarded.
Well Kevin, your site's an inspiration. You have more skill than most, and you obviously can put in the work. I just say good luck and get that portfolio out there. But then, what do I know, I who sit at my day job like a sucker (for now)?
The fact is though, unless you're really aiming low, every pursuit is going to take a lot of figuring out. Look at how many previously successful and famous actors are out looking for work. It's all a hustle. Good luck.
I spent a year trying to do this. I broke my back trying to get jobs...and for all my hard work and dedication I'd be asked to paint some woman on a horse, in a field, with a cowboy hat on. And many other jobs with rules and restrictions like that. The payout was decent...but that's not the point.
If your style is anything less than completely ABSTRACT, the art director you're working for is gonna have you do what he/she wants. And I hated that.
Why am i killing myself for these fucking people?
If you're gonna be told what to do all day and be miserable, atleast get a stable office job to limit the stress to reasonable levels.
Just keep doing what you want, and what interests you. Don't draw any women on horses for money. Don't go down that dark, dark route.
I could talk all day on the merits of why I think most illustration is just filler nobody gives a shit about...but I'll stop there.
The negative side of anything is you fail, the positive side is if you dont fail you succeed.
To quote a very clever person, once a philosopher, twice a pervert.
Though it was George Michael after being caught in that toilet.
Companys didnt just start out big. People didnt just start out right. Some of us win, some of us lose. We'd all lose if we didnt get off our butts once in a while and give something a damned good go.
So the rule is, try freelancing along with selling your stuff online. I'm an emedia developer and I come to your website just because its lovely to look at and use. And your illustrations just add to it all.
If only Bill Gates had got niffs attitude, we wouldnt have any of these issues. (not that he did much, just sell other peoples stuff and put alot of energy into that)
Oh wait, I just contradicted myself. No, No i didnt. Phew.
Wait. Im just stupid.
This is why I post anonymously
ignore all this blather about the viability of striking out on your own. the answer is clear. here's my one-step plan for success: 1) find a wealthy patron. i've read about these italian guys who got to do all kinds of art and stuff without having to work in an office. they had patrons who just gave them money because they were awesome. so that's what you need to do. there's probably a website where you could find a patron. just google "patron," and i'm sure you'll be set up in no time.
Kevin, don't let all these negative nellies get you down! I'll be right over with the inspirational posters!
Hmmm - So far Wayne has the best solution. A patron would be like a slave who PAYS me to draw! This is the kind of unreality I expected!
kev. im sorry if i seem negative...its the a bitter subject sometimes. you are awesome and you know it..so show it. ha. i actually have some recomendations for you if you want. altpic.com is a great place to start. im sure you have seen it. anyway...i dont mean to discourage...i love you. but like a lesbian would love you... yeah.
Thats more like it lads, how about a lesbian patron who also makes you sandwiches? Google doesnt seem to like me searching for that though! I think I broke the super inter web.
Check out the old standbys...among the Medicis, Sforzas and Esterhazys I'm sure there's a vacancy to fill...
Maybe a career in the porn industry is just the way out? I hear half ape half squirrel-men are in high demand in specific movies...
(those involving half ape half squirrel-women in)
Ever worked with an art rep? Could help. Sure they take some of your money but at least they're disposed to finding you work.
Yeah - I've been considering that too, rama - good suggestion!
I don't mind giving up a 25% cut, as long as they consistently bring me work (hopefully good work)
I wish the best for you, young knight.
May thee not photoshoppeth wings on peoples backs.
I do that for a living, its SO artistic...
bye now.
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1. p. dalkner
Well well well. Now that you're home and theoretically competeing against my person in this overcrowded job market, let me be the first to say that I'll be sending over some hired goons. Then the title of this most recent post will be truer than you ever imagined.
(bwahahahahahahahaha)